Nipissing U. PHIL 2525 Contemporary Moral Issues Ursula Stange H350G x4309 ursula(at) stange(dot)com
"Empty is the argument of the philosopher which does not relieve any human suffering."
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March 22 I've sent the four options you have for WW4 by email earlier today. But I'm posting it here as well. Make sure you note the due date: April 6th. Note also that that is Good Friday. The school will be closed. If the Holiday is significant to you, you might want to finish this a day earlier. Random recommended movies...all well worth your thoughtful time. Some of these are in the Nip library. The Bad Seed (1956) Some Groundhog Day related links that I neglected to post back in February:. Philosophical Films: Groundhog Day (1993) Phil's Shadow Michael P. Foley on the Lessons of Groundhog Day The "Groundhog Day" philosophy emerges The poem Phil reads when in bed with Rita. Trees by Joyce Kilmer Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini And finally, those of you with a few minutes to spare might be interested in this short story....keeping moral relativism in mind...No Name Woman
March 19 Come final exam time, many of you will be reviewing the PPTs. In the past, this has resulted in a severe slowdown at the server. If you don't want to be caught in that slow line, please think about reviewing or downloading the PPTs before the last minute. March 13 Please note that I have made a small amendment to the lecture readings. The story of the unconscious violinist was marked like this: (not this year). I have removed that parenthetical aside, so the story is back on board. The extra note was meant for last year and I forgot to erase it for this year. It's short, so I'd ask you to read it (even though the notice here is short). I have also had a request to organize one more pub night before the end of term. I would suggest a week from Wednesday, March 21st. Please save your pennies and mark your calendar. As before, I will buy the first pitcher of beer. Hope to see more of you out this time. March 2 A note about next week's lecture. As I have indicated, I will not be here because of the TEDx Talks down in Bracebridge. I have, however, left the movie assignment with you. I have suggested that you get together with each other or other friends to watch as discussion following the movie would be advantageous. If any are interested, I could arrange permission for you to watch on the larger screen in our classroom at the regular time on Wednesday night. Someone that knows the equipment and has or gets a copy of the movie would have to be in charge of setting up and closing down. Contact me if you'd like to pursue this option. In the meantime, here is the SLING BLADE handout. I indicated in class that the final question on the sheet would count as an attendance question. I have clarified that on this version of the handout. Email me the answer in two or three sentences and I will mark you present for this lecture. Your subject line should read like this: 2525 Sling Blade and your last name. To make sure that as many of you as possible see it, I will send this note to the email group as well. Enjoy your weekends everyone! February 2 For your guidance in completing WW3, I'm posting both of the film study sheets that I handed out for Crimes and Misdemeanors and Groundhog Day. They're also posted in the Lecture Readings. Stoicism is one of the philosophies mentioned as a reference for the attitudes in Groundhog Day. Stoics taught that the right relationship to the world was one of resignation and acceptance of the things one cannot change. It's clear that Phil Connors was in a prison of sorts and that he had only limited control of his life. But he always had control of his attitude. Viktor Frankl tells us that that is the last of the human freedoms. Life can take away everything...but you are always still in control of your attitude about what is happening to you. January 23 We’ve acknowledged already that, compared to much of the world, we Canadians have a pretty luxurious lifestyle. While not quite as utopian as that portrayed in Ursula K. Le Guin’s short story, we can nevertheless ponder the same questions. Who (and where) is the child in our basement? What responsibility do we have to that child? What would/could you, personally, do for that child? What if giving up your happiness didn’t change anything for the child? Consider Paul Farmer's words: The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that's wrong with the world. I hope that this story stays with you for the rest of your life.
January 19 Rick's Rant -- No Debate (This is the 2 minute video I tried to show in class. Enjoy.) I see that I'm having the same problem with Lec 14 PPT as I have been having with Lec 13 PPT. The program just won't let me publish the link on that page. It let me publish Rick's Rant with no problem on this page. Can't figure it out! Maybe I'll un-install and re-install the program on the weekend. January 17 I'm having trouble posting the proper PowerPoint for Lec 13. I can't find a logical answer for the problem despite 2 hours of investigation and testing. It's like something is haunted! When I figure it out I will let you know. January 13 An interview with Garret Hardin about some of the issues that came up this week. And good luck with your Friday the 13th... January 12 In case you were interested in seeing The Meatrix a second time...or sharing it with others. November 23 Here is some advice for the midterm with some sample questions. The midterm is next Wednesday. November 21 WW2 (Written Work 2). Due Dec. 7, 2011 November 17 An interesting bit of history of Blackface....since we discussed it in class. And a 1990 interview with Garrett Hardin. November 13 Here is the text of and a bit of explanation about the poem I read in class last Wednesday. Just a warning that there might be a little reading quiz next Wednesday. Might cover the textbook and the required readings. November 9 Sam Harris: Science can answer moral questions November 8 What we are doing in the lecture and discussions these last two weeks
and tomorrow is to comment on and think about the relationship between
religion and morality. Clearly some people believe very strongly that
both personal and public morality can only stem from a religious ground. If we
want to question that, and we do, then it behooves us to question the
hold that religion has on us. This is the reason I have been talking
about the role religion has carved out for itself in both our individual and social life. November 6 Here is a bit of thoughtful background reading on the film we watched last week. Crimes and Misdemeanors (Philosophical films) Film Intuition Articles: Crimes and Misdemeanors October 7 I thought I would post two sample papers from last year that exemplify success in WW1. While these papers didn't receive the absolute highest marks, they both received solid A's. I chose them because they demonstrate the range of acceptable answers to the questions posed in WW1. October 5 Just a note that the first Written Work assignment (WW1) will be due on Thursday, October 20th. Details were sent out to the email exchange group yesterday. Now they are posted here. I will not be passing these out in class, so don't lose track of it here. Printing is optional. There's also some comment in today's lecture about 'The White Man's Burden'. The images I used come from the Wikipedia Page here. Today's 'Ethics in the news" concerns this story in the Toronto Star: Hudak Defends Controversial Tory Flyer The Globe and Mail's take. September 23 Just a reminder that the first textbook reading is required for next week's class. You can check the lecture readings in the link above. If you haven't signed up for the email group yet, please do so. September 21 I think I've fixed the sign-up link now. Sorry about the trouble. September 20 More on doping and sports: Should it be legal? Philosophy in the News: "US researchers who exposed hundreds of Guatemalans to sexually transmitted diseases committed "unconscionable basic violations of ethics", a US health commission has found." Read the rest of the story here... Also read about the Troy Davis case. It may come up in class. I'm happy to see that a few of you found your way here over the last week and signed up for the email group. September 15 So we met last night and my webpage didn't work...embarrassing, that. It seems fixed now so please click on the email exchange link above or below to sign up. Please be sure to include a little message to me with your full name. As I said in class, you can direct the mail to go to whatever account you want. It does not have to be the yahoo mail they will offer you. Neither does it have to be your Nipissing mail. I've also updated the syllabus to reflect the marking scheme we ok'd in class yesterday. Check back frequently to see what's new. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hmmm....Wednesday evening! One week from now we will be in our first class together. Exciting...but...Oh Summer, where did you go? Join the 2011/2012 email exchange group The syllabus has now been updated -- please print it for the first class.
Updates for the 2011/2012 academic year will appear soon. Please check back. In the meantime, feel free to look around. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Welcome to this class page for the 2010/2011 academic year. I hope you find the entries informative, engaging and sometimes entertaining. The email exchange group will allow you to participate. As we proceed, I hope that you will contribute articles and webpages that you find helpful. Like any blog, newest entries will always appear at the top. This blog is required reading. It will update you on additional required readings that will be discussed in class. Only things labelled 'required reading' are required. Everything else is for your edification or pleasure or stimulation.
April 1 Here's the advice handout about the final exam. March 28 Because we've been talking about the Golden Rule... Brahmanism: This is the sum of duty: Do naught unto others which would cause you pain if done to you.: Mahabharata 5:1517 March 17 In Tuesday's class we listened to a TED Talk. Here is the link to Sam Harris talking about how science can help us determine human values. March 14 Just an alert about another reading for Friday: the Universal Declaration of Human Rights You may remember that this was required reading in Lecture 4. Please review it for Friday's discussion.
I mentioned a listserve that I run called NipSpeakEasy. You can subscribe and unsubscribe any time you want. You can participate or just lurk. I began this list in 2006 and most members are former students. Subjects range widely...not just philosophy. Sign up here...I have to approve you, so sign your name. Let me know if you have a problem. February 28 Random recommended movies...all well worth your thoughtful time. Some of these are in the Nip library. The Bad Seed (1956)
February 3 Some Groundhog Day related links. Philosophical Films: Groundhog Day (1993) Phil's Shadow Michael P. Foley on the Lessons of Groundhog Day The "Groundhog Day" philosophy emerges The poem Phil reads when in bed with Rita. Trees by Joyce Kilmer Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini
January 30 Just pointing you to more Dan Ariely (the behavioural economist we listened to in class on Friday). Here is his home page. Here is the lecture we listened to. Here is another lecture by him.
January 15 Two books very worth reading...the top one is the one I alluded to in class yesterday. The film is being shown by the North Bay Film Club. Clicking on the film will get you the trailer. I haven't seen it. I've only read the book. I believe they have special rates for students. Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro This second one has also been made into a movie, but I would heartily recommend the book. It is short and powerful. You could read it in a day or two. And you will never forget it. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly by Jean-Dominique Bauby (This was made into a film recently -- you can google the trailer...) I'm also passing this along in view of our discussions yesterday... Time for a debate on assisted suicide A student in my on-line class referred to the philosophy in a song called 'Sunscreen." The lyrics sounded familiar to me, but not as a song. I knew it as a commencement address written by the great American novelist, Kurt Vonnegut. I went looking in google. This is what I found: The rest of the story... And this to think on... "The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute that it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive, many others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, others are slowly being devoured from within by rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst, and disease. It must be so. If there ever is a time of plenty, this very fact will automatically lead to an increase in the population until the natural state of starvation and misery is restored. In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference." Richard Dawkins, River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life, Basic Books, 1996 January 13 I've mentioned the Humanist Association before in this class. Here is a page published by the British Humanists which explains a bit about Jeremy Bentham. Some of you will find it interesting. Also, would those who are thinking of a presentation this term please put something in writing for me. I'm really not interested in 10 of you feeling desperate to earn a few extra marks in the last two weeks of class. If you want to do it, let me know sooner rather than later. We have one presentation scheduled for next week. Other times are up for grabs... November 26 A quick little read on the Enlightenment. We barely touched on Martin Luther King's Address from a Birmingham Jail. And didn't at all get to this: Discussion: The Coming Plague: newly emerging diseases.... I'll try to find some room on Tuesday. The midterm is on Friday... November 25 Further to Thomas Hobbes: Chapter XIII of Leviathan describes Hobbes' conception of the state of nature. Worth the read... " In such condition there is no place for industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain: and consequently no culture of the earth; no navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea; no commodious building; no instruments of moving and removing such things as require much force; no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time; no arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short. " On Tuesday, I mentioned the Ten Thousand Villages sale at Nipissing. I believe it continues until tomorrow. November 23 Just posting the Midterm advice for anyone who missed it on Friday. And here is the TVO interview about the Guaranteed Annual Income I mentioned in class today. November 19 Please note that I have revised the next few weeks of the schedule to accomodate the textbook author's decision to move the chapter on the Social Contract (from his father's old version of the book). This change affects next week's readings and discussion, so please don't put off having a look at it. November 18 Babies beat Bullies... What a great eye-opener! November 17 File this under things your generation will have to think hard about... About WW2: I've allowed two weeks for this short little opinion piece because I'd like you to think about it seriously. It might seem the obvious answer that Dorothy Day did more for the world around her but think about Rand's ongoing influence. She also has brought comfort to many. What is the same? What are the differences? In what way do they matter? If you had a daughter, which path would you prefer to see her on? Spend some time. Talk to others. Think beyond the obvious...
November 1 Just a comment about last week's PowerPoint: I put the whole thing up on the lecture readings page above even though we didn't get to all of it because of the cancelled class on Tuesday. October 24 I should have added also some reference to Leopold and Loeb and their year of planning for the 'perfect' murder. How does the psychopathic pattern outlined below fit them? Thinking back to Lec 5, I could have stressed Hume's theory more forcefully. Being an atheist, he obviously wouldn't ascribe our moral sense to the teachings of scripture. No doubt thinking long and hard (longer and harder than most of us could manage) he theorized that our moral sense must come from our senses. Being human, we all have similar human responses to human suffering (our own or that of others). This (unthinking, for most of us) empathy creates morality. Think about it.... October 23 Very interesting commentary this morning on some of the things we have been talking about: (How a Psychopath is Made). Especially note the connection between the psychopath's inability to develop empathy and our discussion of Hume's theory of a moral sense. Hume used the word sympathy, but what he meant was fellow-feeling. He said that our ablity to feel what others are feeling is what creates and develops our moral sense. People who can't feel what others are feeling, fail to develop a moral sense. It's what they seem to be saying here. October 21 Here is the link to the assignment that I promised to post. October 8 In case any of you wanted to read Rudyard Kipling's poem, The White Man's Burden. October 2 Just a reminder (as few seem to be listening). I asked that when you email me that you put 2525 and your last name in the subject line so that my email program files your message in the right folder. I don't guarantee that you'll get a timely answer otherwise. After the 2525 and last name you can put whatever else you want. October 1 Life is mostly froth and bubble; Adam Lindsay Gordon September 24 I took a slightly longer look at the web page containing the image I purloined for my PowerPoint (about the Megan Meier case), and wanted to adjust the perception I left you with. Here is the page with the image... http://magicnegrowatch.blogspot.com/2009/05/hr-1966-megan-meier-cyberbullying.html While it's not the sort of bully pulpit I would ordinarily recommend, it does speak to some of what we were discussing in class. What can I say? Read carefully and make up your own mind. September 23 Perhaps you'll remember my looking for the correct word to describe deductive arguments in class on Tuesday. The word I was looking for was 'airtight.' Debaters and lawyers like the deductive argument because it is a way to spell out the obvious – because, in a sense, the conclusion is already contained in the premises -- the conclusion does not – can not – go beyond what is already stated in the premises. That’s why a deduction can be airtight. If you get agreement for the premises...and your form is valid...then your opponent must accept your conclusion. September 17 The Dear Prudence letter we used in class today... And...I'll bring the 'Art or Child Abuse' discussion (see below) back to class on Tuesday. September 15 Something to think about...a warning from Stephen Hawking It seems to me that we've been searching for contact for almost a generation, but this analysis kind of makes you wonder. I haven't seen the movie, Avatar, yet, but maybe that's relevant here, too. September 14 A little something to stick under your thinking cap.... September 12 These are background readings for the first lecture: War museum to rework controversial bomber panel The Canadian War Museum (in case you didn't know it existed) Ethics in the news: (also for discussion in the first lecture) YouTube: A news story featuring Olympia herself and another: Olympia Nelson hits back at naked art fury But there's other sides: The naked truth is hard to come by What is at issue here? Is it's copying of an older photo relevant? Is Olympia's defence of the picture relevant? How does the fact that the photographer is the girl's mother affect your judgment? Other things to think about... Short little interview with an author you're probably familiar with...or should be... And something else to think about as we gear up for another school year. We'll be talking about this the first or second week, so give it some thought. September 8 Something to think about as we wait for class. Moral issues are everywhere around us. This in the news this morning... Quebec Euthansia Inquiry hears gruelling tales of suicide September 7 Class next week...hard to believe. Europe was great (Berlin and Dresden). Daughter's wedding even greater. If you tried to sign up for the email exchange group and you haven't heard back, it might be that I ddn't get the information soon enough to okay you. Please try again. I'll speak to this the first week of class. There appear to be about 27 of us. See you soon. August 17 I've just added the new syllabus (above). This is the first year that the class will be held in two segments (Tuesday and Friday), so there may be some adjustments. I've also created our email exchange group. You can sign up by clicking on the link. Please put your whole name in the email. More information after I return from Europe and my daughter's wedding in Vancouver. Enjoy the rest of your summer.
In the meantime, feel free to poke around last year's blog ------------------------------------------------------ 2009 / 2010
APRIL 12 Some philosophical activities you might be interested in trying: The Philosophers' Magazine (2 of them have to do with morality and one with God.) Two books very worth reading...the top one is the one I alluded to in class during the discussion on cloning. Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro The Diving Bell and the Butterfly by Jean-Dominique Bauby (This was made into a film recently -- you can google the trailer...)
MARCH 18 I was speaking to these things in class today: Morality is a slave to emotion. MARCH 12 Just a reminder about B Hunt's presentation a week ago. She mentioned the intriguing Spider Goats and the documentary Food Inc. MARCH 11 The complete Judy Jarvis Thomson article we looked at in class today. A rebuttal: Unstringing the Violinist (I think he misrepresents that 'concession' she made for the sake of argument.) Wikipedia article about Thomson's Defense of Abortion The TED talk we didn't get to. Barry Schwartz on our Loss of Wisdom MARCH 9 Because we've been talking about the Golden Rule... Brahmanism: This is the sum of duty: Do naught unto others which would cause you pain if done to you.: Mahabharata 5:1517 MARCH 7 I've tallied the comments about keeping three hour classes that I collected on Thursday. Every single one of you said to keep the three-hour classes. You provided a variety of reasons and some of you were quite vehement about not having multiple sessions of a class spead out over the week. One person did, however, mention that while he preferred shorter classes in his science program, he liked the longer class in the humanities. JANUARY 30 Another Extra Credit opportunity: Cinema Politica screenings here at Nipissing. JANUARY 8 Just this morning, I came across this article which includes reference to the Omelas story. A powerful example of how the story has wider applications. JANUARY 7 I've found the "Story of Those Who Walk Away from Omelas" on a different web page. The story I told in class about my son's server turned out to be a red herring. The real culprit is that Geocities went out of business and took the page with them. I've posted a different address and a pdf version in the readings section for lecture 13 (and also posted it under lecture 14 as a reminder that we will go back to it next week). Thanks for your patience... NOVEMBER 15 In view of the changed lecture next week (see the email I sent earlier today) I've updated both the readings list and the syllabus above. Please note the changes so you can be prepared for the correct lecture. My apologies for the confusion. NOVEMBER 12 Ayn Rand on Youtube. I had this link with me in class today, but forgot about it. Very sorry. Please watch it. Garrett Hardin on Youtube. A few minutes but very interesting. I meant to show this in class, but forgot. Just remembering to post the Dr. Laura letter I mentioned in class last week. This site provides both the letter and some background information. Worth the read... And here is the West Wing spot that I showed last week. You have to scroll down past the letter... OCTOBER 27 Here is the BodyWorlds PPT that K Mcmillan presented last Thursday. Some of you may want to take another look or search out the links. OCTOBER 26 I think I promised to put up the home page of the author of A Year of Living Biblically. You can see that he has written a new book as well. OCTOBER 19 Just a note about this week's PowerPoint. You may have noticed that I removed the link to it. I'm having second thoughts about offering them ahead of the lecture. This is the first year that I have done this and I'm not sure that the lecture isn't better without your having read every slide ahead of time. I will put the slides up after the lecture... OCTOBER 7 You may notice that I removed one of the readings from tomorrow's class. Are we born moral? by John Gray If you've already printed it, hang on to it. We will make time for it later. It's very worthwhile... OCTOBER 1 Further to the White Man's Burden. And the text of the poem. Westboro Baptist Church also came up in class. Those of you with a few minutes to spare might be interested in this short story....keeping moral relativism in mind...No Name Woman SEPTEMBER 29 I want to bring to your attention some of the opportunities to make a difference in your community. The Gathering Place North Bay's soup kitchen A recent article in the local paper about The Gathering Place (read some of the comments at the bottom...which do you agree with and why?) SEPTEMBER 25 About that extra credit show and tell: I was trying to remember the name of this series: Cinema Politica and there's also this... Contemplating Local Food at the Kennedy Gallery on Oct. 2nd. Two books I mentioned in class on Thursday... Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro The Diving Bell and the Butterfly by Jean-Dominique Bauby (This was made into a film recently -- you can google the trailer...)
SEPTEMBER 22 Just a note to let you know that I've posted additional readings for the discussion segment of Thursday's class....see the readings page above. And here is something that came up in class once or twice... Carbon fiber legs: unfair advantage? Details on the prosthetic foot If there's anything else I've promised to post, someone please remind me....I won't consider it nagging. SEPTEMBER 17 How much thought do we put into our moral judgments? SEPTEMBER 1 2009 / 2010 These are background readings for the first lecture: War museum to rework controversial bomber panel Ethics in the news: (for discussion in the first lecture) Another point of view: How far must we fall before an artist throws up? and another: Olympia Nelson hits back at naked art fury What is at issue here? Is it's copying of an older photo relevant? Is Olympia's defence of the picture relevant? How does the fact that the photographer is the girl's mother affect your judgment? On another note: I now pronounce you...friend and friend.
And... A little ethical problem to think about while we wait for class to begin.... Dear Prudence, —Sister Is Healthy As a Horse
How would you answer her?
Welcome to this class page for the 2008/2009 academic year. I hope you find the entries informative, engaging and sometimes entertaining. As we proceed, I hope that you will contribute articles and webpages that you find helpful. I will publish them for the rest of the class's benefit. Newest entries will always appear at the top. This blog is required reading. It will update you on additional required readings that will be discussed in class. Readings for the first four weeks will be handed out in class and are also accessible in the links box at the top. Future readings will be published as we go along and will also be accessible above.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Everything below this line belongs to last year's class. It's not a complete record, however.... merely bits and pieces. You're welcome to poke around. Not everything will be the same (each year unwinds in its own particular way) but everything is grist for the mill. JANUARY 24th (For my North Bay students) Because we didn't get to the discussion about the Experience Machine (or Cypher and the Matrix), I didn't show this little youtube clip from the movie. Obviously, the Matrix is the ultimate experience machine (except that we don't know that we are in it). Cypher has been free from the matrix for eight years and, because it's a hard life being free, he wants back in. This little clip has to do with his conversation with an agent of the Matrix about being re-inserted. Here it is...
JANUARY 9TH Just a reminder that we are reconvening this term in A226 rather than in our old room. Hope your holidays were filled with good friends, family and food. A little tradition and a few surprises.
NOVEMBER 2nd I've read through your further responses to the movie and edited and compiled a sample of them. Click here if you'd like to read them. I'm surprised that no one mentioned the Ring of Gyges. You remember the story early in the course about how we would all be tempted if we were certain that we could get away with bad things. Judah is assured by his brother that he will not be connected to the crime. And he eventually refuses to believe in a God that could find him out. He says that God is a luxury he cannot afford.
SEPTEMBER 21st These are the movies recommended by your fellow students.... I (heart) Huckabees SEPTEMBER 18th Just a correction to the schedule of lectures....In your syllabus and in the link to Lecture Readings above, I mistakenly had Study Week listed after the fourth lecture, but it should be listed as following the fifth lecture for my Bracebridge students and following the sixth lecture for my North Bay students. I've now noted this in the link above, but please make these changes on your handout. I will also mention this in class, but wanted to make sure that everyone was aware of this. Sorry for the confusion.
SEPTEMBER 11th In relation to the Ring of Gyges, we will look at last week's reading about doping in sports: We'll also consider this story:
SEPTEMBER 2nd These are readings for the first lecture: Deadly Medicine: Creating the Master Race Ethics in the news: Art or child abuse? Another point of view: How far must we fall before an artist throws up? and another: Olympia Nelson hits back at naked art fury What is at issue here? Is it's copying of an older photo relevant? Is Olympia's defence of the picture relevant? How does the fact that the photographer is the girl's mother affect your judgement? On another note: I now pronounce you...friend and friend.
AUGUST 30th Ethics in the news: Pigeons self-aware? What is at stake here? How should these results affect our actions regarding pigeons? Or other animals?) I invite all of you to join the email exchange group (I'm being polite; it's actually mandatory). You will be asked to enter a name and a password (you make them both up unless you already belong to yahoogroups). You will be asked to write to the moderator (me) for approval to join. Please make sure to put your real name in this query. Also indicate whether you are in North Bay or Bracebri |